名色可分離嗎？(3)

[leeyc2]

經文是沒有『病苦折磨』這一句，但雜阿含經卻有『病相應』。不先參透苦諦，身觀念處或觀色無常就難免成為霧裡看花。

譚尼沙羅尊者SN22.79
And why do you call it 'form' (rupa)? Because it is afflicted (ruppati), thus it is called 'form.' Afflicted with what? With cold & heat & hunger & thirst, with the touch of flies

請問一下it is afflicted,是不是含有痛苦的意思?這個巴利字ruppati不知道能不能有法友作一更清楚的解釋?謝謝!

P.S雜含34SN22.59If form were the self, this form would not lend itself to dis-ease. ..

[leeyc2]

P.S雜含34SN22.59If form were the self, this form would not lend itself to dis-ease. ..

雜含34SN2.59菩提尊者譯文 If form were self,this form would not lead to affliction..

[shanguan]

譚尼沙羅尊者SN22.79
And why do you call it 'form' (rupa)? Because it is afflicted (ruppati), thus it is called 'form.' Afflicted with what? With cold & heat & hunger & thirst, with the touch of flies

請問一下it is afflicted,是不是含有痛苦的意思?這個巴利字ruppati不知道能不能有法友作一更清楚的解釋?謝謝!

P.S雜含34SN22.59If form were the self, this form would not lend itself to dis-ease. ..

不要在文字上多糾纏。

凡是色法都有其共同的特點，那只是會被破壞。而痛苦煩惱是心法的作用。

當你家裏的房子被燒了以後，你會不會難過呢？所以對於你來説，房子燒了會使你痛苦。但房子並不是色身。

[Mahanama]

當你家裏的房子被燒了以後，你會不會難過呢？所以對於你來説，房子燒了會使你痛苦。但房子並不是色身。

苦諦並不等同於痛苦。佛陀開示『念身』都是有深意的；不由此下手，得不到正定，也不會有內明。

[shanguan]

苦諦並不等同於痛苦。佛陀開示『念身』都是有深意的；不由此下手，得不到正定，也不會有內明。

苦諦主要指五陰盛苦。

念身並沒有錯，也是常用的下手處，只是還不夠而已。