說到底，求解脫是個人自己的得事。每個人自己思考決定取舍吧。wuchang 寫:巴利語學者有本身就是用巴利語的給佛經做註釋的人權威嗎（上座部認為註釋書也是佛陀時代的產物，有些是佛陀本人的註釋，有些是佛的弟子）freshman 寫: 不止是菩提比丘,幾乎所有的西方巴利語學者,都將這裏的如來,翻譯成佛這個人.
巴利語學者有上座部廣受敬仰的整理翻譯註釋書的覺音尊者權威嗎？
另外，你列幾個巴利語學者方面的翻譯給我看看吧。或者具體說說有幾個。
另外，如果那句翻譯成佛陀本人，你看不出經文莫名其妙乃至很低級嗎？
色當中有佛陀嗎？這不廢話嗎？
色外有佛陀嗎？這不廢話嗎？
這樣的愚蠢問題，竟然能產生證果?
你學佛法，佛法名詞在經典有明確定義，你不用它要用誰的？用你的？wuchang 寫:satta的解釋怎麼和經典不同？satta的中文翻譯就是眾生，就是有情。
另外，到底誰在裝瞎子？到底是誰在沒有面對問題？爲什麽我多次貼出如來一詞的解釋，并指出根據，包括註釋書的根據，你卻視而不見？你卻裝傻？
請你最好離我遠點，我不想和你談，謝謝。
to: mirror3345,mirror3345 寫:關於ＭＮ４９ 可以對照返英譯版本：
"'Having directly known earth as earth, and having directly known the extent of what has not been experienced through the earthness of earth,[6] I wasn't earth, I wasn't in earth, I wasn't coming from earth, I wasn't "Earth is mine." I didn't affirm earth.[7] Thus I am not your mere equal in terms of direct knowing, so how could I be inferior? I am actually superior to you.
"'Having directly known liquid as liquid ... fire as fire ... wind as wind ... beings as beings ... devas as devas ... Pajapati as Pajapati ... brahma as brahma ... the radiant as radiant ... the beautiful black as the beautiful black ... the sky-fruit as the sky-fruit ... the conqueror as the conqueror ...
"'Having directly known the all as the all,[8] and having directly known the extent of what has not been experienced through the allness of the all, I wasn't the all, I wasn't in the all, I wasn't coming forth from the all, I wasn't "The all is mine." I didn't affirm the all. Thus I am not your mere equal in terms of direct knowing, so how could I be inferior? I am actually superior to you.'
"'If, good sir, you have directly known the extent of what has not been experienced through the allness of the all, may it not turn out to be actually vain and void for you.'
"'Consciousness without surface,
endless, radiant all around,has not been experienced through the earthness of earth ... the liquidity of liquid ... the fieriness of fire ... the windiness of wind ... the allness of the all.'
