Dhamma Talks by Mogok Sayadaw--Part 10-20
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[20] How to Think?
1st July 1960
Worldlings have 2 kinds of thinking. With thinking that sorrow, lamentation, pain & grief arise. There is also with thinking sorrow, lamentation, pain & grief not arise or can extinguish them. At what time sorrow & grief arise?
When we are staying alone thinking about this & that. At the times of sleep & waking up, we are thinking about family & business matters. It’s like looking for one’s own dukkha. (Many human beings are like this). We are thinking about things which are not good & follow with sorrow, lamentation & grief.
One’s own thoughts are tormenting oneself. One’s khandha & others’ khandhas are no self. Not-self becomes self & you can’t sleep. Also you are thinking on suffering (dukkha) as happiness (sukha). You are thinking about the impossible that pain & grief arise.
The Buddha taught us how to think. (from the Samyutta Nikāya) All thoughts comes from wrong views (ditthi). For e.g., if I am old it’s quite difficult for me. This is thinking with ditthi. You’re going to the apāya (woeful plane) from the sleeping bed. With thinking & not-self becomes self is thought of wrong view. In the Samyutta, the Buddha taught us to think for Nibbāna & not to think for apāyas (painful births).
Start with the thought of where aging & death (jara, marana) is coming from? or Where these 2 dukkhas are coming from? Then, it becomes right view (sammāditthi). The ageing and death are dukkha sacca & thinking is becoming magga sacca.
It comes with right thought. This is thinking what is existing & not with what is not existing. Ageing &death arise by birth (jati). Here jati becomes samudaya sacca (the cause of dukkha). Again; where is birth coming from? Birth is dukkha sacca and thinking is magga sacca.
And then if you ask; “Is thinking a practice?” my answer is, if kilesas not arise, it’s a practice. Ditthi/ tanhā, upādāna not arise. It becomes magga sammā-ditthi (path factors right view). If kamma ceases & birth also ceases. And it’s knowing nirodha sacca.
In the future you must think in this way. With this D.A process is sure to cut off. Because no kilesas come in. why it’s not including anicca, dukkha & anatta? You have to note it as the contemplation of the mind-cittānupassanā.
Where is kamma (dukkha sacca) coming from? Kamma is dukkha sacca and thinking is magga sacca. Ditthi/tanhā samudaya not arise. It’s killing ditthi & tanhā. It’s practicing to know sacca, developing the truths (bhavetabba). You should note it as practice with developing-bhavetabba.
(Here Sayadaw taught how to use the 12 links of D.A process for thinking We have to contemplate the whole series in the same way.)
This method is reflecting the D.A process in the reverse order (patiloma) & getting the path factors. Where is tanhā coming from? It’s from feeling. Feeling can’t arise by itself. It is arising together with the other 4 khandhas. Feeling arises depending on the body.
Therefore if you can contemplate feeling to the extinction (i.e., the ending of feeling) & dukkha totally ceases. With thinking in backwardly & the object of contemplation appears to us. With the contemplation of feeling is seeing its impermanence, its disenchantment & its ending become the 8 path factors.
And then feeling ceases & Nibbāna arises. With the contemplation comes the cessation of feeling, it’s called uppāda nirodho-the cessation of the arising dhamma. The cessation of tanhā, upādāna, kamma & jati without arising is called anuppāda nirodho.
Therefore these are the cessation of the khandha & kilesa. (Vedana & jati are khandhas; tanhā, upādāna & kamma are kilesas). The Buddha gave the example of firing a clay pot. During firing the pot & it’s hot. After finish & put it outside become cooling down.
Here also the same. The pot in the fire stove with heat is like the khandha with kilesa heat. After outside the stove & cooling down is like the khandha without kilesa. This is saupādisesa Nibbānaa- Nibbāna with the khandha, but without kilesa.
Even though still has the khandha the yogi sees Nibbāna, with the cessation of kilesa. This is called Nibbāna element with the khandha.
1st July 1960
Worldlings have 2 kinds of thinking. With thinking that sorrow, lamentation, pain & grief arise. There is also with thinking sorrow, lamentation, pain & grief not arise or can extinguish them. At what time sorrow & grief arise?
When we are staying alone thinking about this & that. At the times of sleep & waking up, we are thinking about family & business matters. It’s like looking for one’s own dukkha. (Many human beings are like this). We are thinking about things which are not good & follow with sorrow, lamentation & grief.
One’s own thoughts are tormenting oneself. One’s khandha & others’ khandhas are no self. Not-self becomes self & you can’t sleep. Also you are thinking on suffering (dukkha) as happiness (sukha). You are thinking about the impossible that pain & grief arise.
The Buddha taught us how to think. (from the Samyutta Nikāya) All thoughts comes from wrong views (ditthi). For e.g., if I am old it’s quite difficult for me. This is thinking with ditthi. You’re going to the apāya (woeful plane) from the sleeping bed. With thinking & not-self becomes self is thought of wrong view. In the Samyutta, the Buddha taught us to think for Nibbāna & not to think for apāyas (painful births).
Start with the thought of where aging & death (jara, marana) is coming from? or Where these 2 dukkhas are coming from? Then, it becomes right view (sammāditthi). The ageing and death are dukkha sacca & thinking is becoming magga sacca.
It comes with right thought. This is thinking what is existing & not with what is not existing. Ageing &death arise by birth (jati). Here jati becomes samudaya sacca (the cause of dukkha). Again; where is birth coming from? Birth is dukkha sacca and thinking is magga sacca.
And then if you ask; “Is thinking a practice?” my answer is, if kilesas not arise, it’s a practice. Ditthi/ tanhā, upādāna not arise. It becomes magga sammā-ditthi (path factors right view). If kamma ceases & birth also ceases. And it’s knowing nirodha sacca.
In the future you must think in this way. With this D.A process is sure to cut off. Because no kilesas come in. why it’s not including anicca, dukkha & anatta? You have to note it as the contemplation of the mind-cittānupassanā.
Where is kamma (dukkha sacca) coming from? Kamma is dukkha sacca and thinking is magga sacca. Ditthi/tanhā samudaya not arise. It’s killing ditthi & tanhā. It’s practicing to know sacca, developing the truths (bhavetabba). You should note it as practice with developing-bhavetabba.
(Here Sayadaw taught how to use the 12 links of D.A process for thinking We have to contemplate the whole series in the same way.)
This method is reflecting the D.A process in the reverse order (patiloma) & getting the path factors. Where is tanhā coming from? It’s from feeling. Feeling can’t arise by itself. It is arising together with the other 4 khandhas. Feeling arises depending on the body.
Therefore if you can contemplate feeling to the extinction (i.e., the ending of feeling) & dukkha totally ceases. With thinking in backwardly & the object of contemplation appears to us. With the contemplation of feeling is seeing its impermanence, its disenchantment & its ending become the 8 path factors.
And then feeling ceases & Nibbāna arises. With the contemplation comes the cessation of feeling, it’s called uppāda nirodho-the cessation of the arising dhamma. The cessation of tanhā, upādāna, kamma & jati without arising is called anuppāda nirodho.
Therefore these are the cessation of the khandha & kilesa. (Vedana & jati are khandhas; tanhā, upādāna & kamma are kilesas). The Buddha gave the example of firing a clay pot. During firing the pot & it’s hot. After finish & put it outside become cooling down.
Here also the same. The pot in the fire stove with heat is like the khandha with kilesa heat. After outside the stove & cooling down is like the khandha without kilesa. This is saupādisesa Nibbānaa- Nibbāna with the khandha, but without kilesa.
Even though still has the khandha the yogi sees Nibbāna, with the cessation of kilesa. This is called Nibbāna element with the khandha.